In a no-topics-off-the-table conversation at the International Hotel Investment Forum, AccorHotel’s Chairman and CEO Sébastien Bazin and Expedia Group President and CEO Mark Okerstrom discussed the similarities and differences of their businesses, how they spend their time, and why innovation is critical at any cost - no matter how they individually define it.

Okerstrom said Expedia is “shifting more to smaller, independent properties” to add to the company’s listings.

Bazin said that group also is increasingly important for Accor. “Half my growth comes from (those small independent operators) because they knock on my door to gain protection,” he said.